The Fuzzy World 3um

Here's another example, this time with a pair of near new Norfolk Southern SD70's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaEO0CBixmk

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SD70ACEs actually. SD70s have spartan cabs and are getting a bit old

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Don't tell me to like the SD60Es. As long as they wear those hideous cabs/faces, any would-be positives about them mean absolutely nothing to me. And by trying to get me to like them in any way, you are only making me angrier and worsening the problem.

Max, doesn't seem a little hypocritical to call out someone for using "fancy terms" like long hood forward and then split hairs about locomotive model numbers? Besides, SD70ACe's (and yes, the e is lower case if you really want to get wound up) are SD70s...

Just sayin'...

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Chris
Denver, CO

"May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, leading to the most spectacular view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds." ~Edward Abbey

Engineer cant always swivel his seat to look back, Especially on Desktop control stands. I dont know much about newer locomotives since I dont get to run in them, but in SD40's running longhead isnt very fun either.

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Brent

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My reply was my way of saying "it always looked more like backwards to me" rather than a correction at all. Meant as a joke. Though I DO care a lot about referring to the type of a unit as specifically as needed. You know, so that if someone tells me there's an SD60 I could catch, I wont find myself staring at an ugly fat faced 3-eyed mutant thing. Same with SD70s. I love those units a lot. But SD70M/MAC/I/75/ACE/M-2s are a bit more meh to me

"Long hood forward" is of course the correct name for it. although IMHO it's an outdated term meant to apply to high hood units that really didnt have a front or back end. But now that the "short hood" is called the "nose", it's clear which end is meant to be the front.

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Don't tell me to like the SD60Es. As long as they wear those hideous cabs/faces, any would-be positives about them mean absolutely nothing to me. And by trying to get me to like them in any way, you are only making me angrier and worsening the problem.

Max,

Your "explanation" holds no water- the term is not outdated and every locomotive has their forward direction clearly labeled on the frame with a large "F" (this goes for everything from GP7s to RS3s to C44-9Ws). The designation of the forward end of the locomotive was important for the operating crew when giving switching instructions ergo a unit running "long hood forwards" could make a backwards move switching- take a look at this Erie Lackawanna GP7- note the "F" on the frame on the forward end of the locomotive...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1219894

and here's a Milwaukee Road GP9 with the forward end of the locomotive clearly marked-
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1878496

and even in cases where you assume that the "short hood" or "nose" is the front end....
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1587952

yeah, that's right that NW "short hood" C30-7s forward end is actually the "long hood"- notice how the "F" is back by the radiators. Same thing with this low short hood SD40-2...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2703309

in short- don't make assumptions, read the frame!

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Matt Holman
Spring, TX

There's an F? What the cheezits? I never knew! Well ok by railroad terms, they can define the front end. But remember, I see a face on the cab. so as an unfortunate result, I'll always see the cab/nose/short hood end as the front....Even in those instances where I'm "wrong". Something I call "Atmovision". also remember, I was joking in the first reply I posted here. It's not "backwards", that's just how I will always see it because of the whole "face" thing.




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Don't tell me to like the SD60Es. As long as they wear those hideous cabs/faces, any would-be positives about them mean absolutely nothing to me. And by trying to get me to like them in any way, you are only making me angrier and worsening the problem.