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 Post Re: Nuclear Power, Posted Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:25 pm 
  
   
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Nothing scary about that video. It's called propaganda for a reason...

Rednecks? blowing up a nuke plant? Yeah, no. Here's why: They can't keep their traps closed long enough to do it without everyone knowing about it first.

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Rednecks? blowing up a nuke plant? Yeah, no. Here's why: They can't keep their traps closed long enough to do it without everyone knowing about it first.

9/11?

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Todd M Taylor wrote:
9/11?
Well, that wasn't exactly white supremacist rednecks doin' that; however, those responsible did do a fair amount of blabbing about it that the intel was there; but the rednecks that were in charge really dropped the ball on it. :slap:

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Todd M Taylor wrote:
Ten96 wrote:
Rednecks? blowing up a nuke plant? Yeah, no. Here's why: They can't keep their traps closed long enough to do it without everyone knowing about it first.

9/11?


There should be no reason for clarification that 9/11 was not rednecks, but apparently it's required. Whether or not the .gov failed to act on the chatter from here and abroad about the terrorist activities that led up to 9/11 is not what is being discussed at the moment.

Rednecks does not = middle eastern types

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Just because the video states that 'rednecks' will be used to carry out terrorist plots obviously doesn't mean that's the only means being tried, obviously. I think many of you underestimate the intelligence of those who hate our country and their desire to see us dead.

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Todd M Taylor wrote:
Just because the video states that 'rednecks' will be used to carry out terrorist plots obviously doesn't mean that's the only means being tried, obviously. I think many of you underestimate the intelligence of those who hate our country and their desire to see us dead.

The only things I keep in mind regarding those folks are:
1. Let out half a breath and relax;
2. Squeeze gently until the trigger breaks;
3. Watch the shot and repeat step two if needed.

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Not completely related to nuclear power, but clearly a sign that people other than 'rednecks' are looking into ways to wreak havoc on our country w/o using a single bomb:

Report: Spies hacked into U.S. electricity grid

If they can hack into our electrical grid, can they seize control of a nuclear power plant and shut it down, or at least screw-up operations to the point where it's a threat? I'm guessing so.

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JSOnline.com: Nuclear waste now stored outside reactor

I have a feeling they'll be waiting a long time to find an alternate place to store this stuff as I'm pretty sure no one wants it in their back yard. Even if a new place is found, how will they transport these huge containers safely?

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If I was president that entire section of the world would be unpopulated right now.


:roffle: The :censor: over there should really pull their heads out of their :censor: .

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Wind

Every building in the US should have solar power on the roof. Stopping building coal plants spend it on solar & wind.


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Wind

Every building in the US should have solar power on the roof. Stopping building coal plants spend it on solar & wind.


Errr...I do hope you like spending money on backup options or living with blackouts if that's your solution.

So all those new wind farms getting built everywhere? Those are all backed up by expensive peaker plants for times when the wind stops, or even blows too hard. They're all up and running, ready to take the load at any time when either of those conditions are met. So, the only fuel savings is the difference between idle load and whatever the demand is when the wind turbines shut down. They're really not as "green" as everyone would have us all believe. Well...except in that those peaker plants backing up the wind power cost a lot of green.

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Tracking Your Taxes: The High Price of Nuclear Waste

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AP source: Obama to announce nuke plant loan

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President Barack Obama next week will announce a loan guarantee to build the first nuclear power plant in the United States in almost three decades, an administration official said Friday. The two new Southern Co. reactors to be built in Burke, Ga., are part of a White House energy plan administration officials hope will draw Republican support. Obama's direct involvement in announcing the award underscores the political weight the White House is putting behind its effort to use nuclear power and alternative energy sources to lessen American dependence on foreign oil and reduce the use of other fossil fuels blamed for global warming.

Even with next week's announcement, actual construction of the first reactor is still years away. NRC spokesman Eliot Brenner said the earliest any of those could be approved would be late 2011 or early 2012. The Southern Co. has begun site preparation in Burke -- one of 13 such applications the NRC is considering -- but cannot begin construction without the agency's approval.

Obama called for "a new generation of safe, clean nuclear power plants" in his Jan. 27 State of the Union speech, and followed that by proposing to triple loan guarantees for new nuclear plants.

Spiraling costs, safety concerns and opposition from environmentalists have kept utilities from building any new nuclear power plants since the early 1980s. The 104 nuclear reactors now in operation in 31 states provide about 20 percent of the nation's electricity. But they are responsible for 70 percent of the power from pollution-free sources, including wind, solar and hydroelectric dams that Obama has championed as a way to save the environment and economy at the same time.

Environmentalists and fiscal hawks oppose new nuclear plants and note that they come at the same time Obama has proposed eliminating a long-planned nuclear waste dump at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Obama has appointed a commission to find a safe solution for dealing with nuclear waste, but in the meantime the government has no long-term plan to store commercial radioactive waste.


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but in the meantime the government has no long-term plan to store commercial radioactive waste.

Yup, that's about what I'd expect. I say we put the spent fuel on the front lawn of the white house for the next 3 years or so.

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(Old article) ABC News: Obama says safe nuclear power plants are a necessary investment

After watching the news for the past few weeks as crude oil ruins the environment in the Gulf of Mexico because of a human error, how much validity is there in thinking that nuclear power is 'safe'? If we can't figure-out a guaranteed way to keep oil from leaking out into our oceans, how on earth are we going to ensure that our nuclear reactors will never expose humans to radioactive waste... or worse... a melt-down?!?!?

The simple answer is that there is no such thing as a 'safe' nuclear reactor, just as there is apparently no such thing as an oil derrick that will never leak oil into the ocean and wreak havoc on our environment. Human beings make mistakes. Back-up systems fail. Even if we employed super humans at nuclear reactor sites that never made mistakes, nature is much more powerful than anything man can make and can easily destroy even the most well-made nuclear (via hurricane, flood, earthquake, tornado, etc.)

The one huge difference between the oil problem and nuclear waste is that the oil problem can likely be contained and cleaned-up in less than a person's lifetime (I hope!) However, the half-life of uranium-238 is about 4.47 billion years and that of uranium-235 is 704 million years. No matter who's theory you believe as to how human life got started, we haven't even been on this earth as long as the half-life of these elements!

We as a human race cannot afford to play around with something that dangerous. One mistake on our part will sacrifice the lives and well being for generations into the future that we can't even conceive. I cannot justify being so selfish as to put so much as stake just so I can get some cheap power to turn on my computer at night.

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